redundancy patrol

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Man, this is (again!) why I love you. This is brilliant. This is awesome. If you ever delete this post, I shall be forced to, I don't know, start prank calling you or something.

This reminds me so much of Mark Twain's annihilation of what's his face, the Deerslayer guy. Fenimore Cooper. You've read it, I assume?

ah geez gb, homework? you didn't tell me there was going to be homework when i joined you in the blogosphere. i haven't read the novel or Twain's comments, but i will now. sigh. so much to do, so little time.

Don't bother about the novel--just read the Twain. The novel sucks ass.
i have printed a copy and will report back once i've had a chance to read and digest it. it looks really interesting. makes me think i should read more twain. huck, tom, connecticut yankee, i think are all i've read.
Don't read Cormac McCarthy, if this kind of thing annoys you.
what you're complaining about in your post.

can you please clarify. do you think McCarthy authored the sentences i quoted in my post or are you just stating that McCarthy also writes these type of sentences and should thus be avoided.

The second. Sorry, we may be separated by a common language!

The passage reminded me of McCarthy; whom I like (I actually like the passage you quote too). It could be considered precious I guess, and when I'm grumpy I don't have patience for prose that aspires to be poetry. Other times it seems very beautiful.

McCarthy is actually one of my favorite authors. It's never occurred to me that his prose is similar. Anything specific you can point to or just a general sense of McCarthyism (Cormac not Joseph)?
(noise of rustling pages) Here's something more or less at random.

He looked fourteen going on some age that never was. He looked as if he'd been sitting there and God had made the treees and rocks around him. He looked like his own reincarnation and then his own again. Above all else he looked to be filled with a terrible sadness. As if he harbored news of some horrendous loss that no one lese had heard of yet. Some vast tragedy not of fact or incident or event but of the way the world was.

It's good reading, meaning fun to read aloud, creates a mood, and has, to me, a poetry-like rhythm. But depending on how much caffeine I have on board, I have to stifle a certain 'oh please get on with it'. And I think Hemingway could have done it in half the words.

But, see, I think the McCarthy is poetic and lush, while I thought the original passage (the four-point buck deer thingie) was just silly.

But that's just me.

thanks for the example. it's interesting, McCarthy's sentences don't feel labored or redundant to me. instead each sentence adds, stresses, or qualifies description without feeling superfluous. here McCarthy is creating an image of an apocalyptic old soul and the complexity of the image warrants his "prolonged" treatment. his phrasing is indeed poetic and wonderfully so. i have no quarrel with poetic language and phrasing in prose. when done well, it blisses me out. when done poorly, it clinks, clanks, and clunks like a trunkload of cans on their way to the recycler. for me, ascribing dolphin-like leaps to a deer produces a clink, a clank, and at least half of a clunk. i wonder if the same author would describe dolphins making deer-like leaps out of the water? maybe so.

Your describing how each sentence adds, stresses, qualifies, etc. made me think of W.G. Sebald - wonder if you know of him? Unfortunately died a few years ago. He seems to me to build in the same slow way, and it's pure pleasure to read. You can't be in a big hurry for anything to happen, but the emotions are quite strong, especially in 'Austerlitz'.
As for the whole deer/dolphin thing.... I don't know. It does make one think of an arc, I suppose, and mixing surf and turf provides interest. I agree that 'deer-like leaps' would sound bad, all three of them monosyllables. He might have his dolphins leap deer-like, though.

I do certainly know the feeling of wanting to go to my back door and hurl a book baseball-like as far it will go, though, so I sympathize with your clunk-avoidance.

I'm not familiar with W.G. Sebald, but i'll definitely check him out. thanks for the tip!

hurl a book baseball-like as far as it will go. hark, is that another arc i see hurling my way?

happy reading!

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